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Move "Epoch (reference date)" to "Epoch (date reference)"?Edit

Please see Talk:Epoch (date reference)#RFC:Undiscussed page move. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc3s5h (talkcontribs) 02:47, February 18, 2019 (UTC)

Year categories for upcoming productsEdit

I've had a poke around and not seen any official guidance/discussion on adding eg Category:2023 films to an unreleased film (or other "product"). For my work on the Special:WantedCategories backlog I've always tended towards the view that WP:CRYSTAL (Wikipedia does not predict the future...Dates are not definite until the event actually takes place, as even otherwise-notable events can be cancelled or postponed at the last minute by a major incident]]) meant that you shouldn't be categorising by date until a film had been actually released as the "year of release" was not a definite property of the film until it had been released. We've had many examples because of COVID-19 lately, but even before that it was far from unknown from films/software/albums to slip massively from announced release dates. As such, they are different to major sporting events like the Olympics where it was almost unheard of for them to change year - so I would regard 2020 sporting events as an exception to the rule, whereas for films etc it was just an intensification of something that was already common. We already have Category:Upcoming films which more accurately and more reliably describes such films than a release year category. Any thoughts? Should it be written into WP:Categorization that articles on upcoming products should not be categorised by year until after release? Le Deluge (talk) 17:07, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Organization by significance/importanceEdit

I'm amazed this hasn't been brought up, but isn't it possible to create more succinct summaries of the more significant events/people of each year, in addition to the comprehensive version? The years of events/people as they currently exist are for all practical purposes useless simply because of their length. At the least there could be symbols next to the listed pages indicating which have pages of any significant or major length, instead of bloating the lists with links that are 99% stubs. (For an example of what I'm talking about, look at the events, births or deaths for any year.) (talk) 03:57, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

I think that 2 or 3 of the most significant events could easily be added to the lead of many year articles, if you feel something is significant enough to do so please edit the article boldly to that effect. "Succinct summaries of [the article]" sounds like a perfect description of what the leads are for!
Separately many of them could be improved by removing some of those 'stub' articles you mention.
JeffUK (talk) 20:17, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Merging "by period" and "by date" container categories, or not?Edit

Please check this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:54, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Essay on 'Template for Main Year Articles' with inclusion guidanceEdit

Some time ago I found an Essay on the suggested layout and content of 'Main Year Articles.' I'm sure it was linked to from this project but can't for the life of me remember how I got to it. It had a template with some discussion on what is normally included in each section.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about and/or have a link?

Thanks! JeffUK (talk) 08:48, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Recent years? Certes (talk) 13:52, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
@JeffUK and Certes: - For that WP-Recent years essay, I added a "Further" pointing to At WP-Years/criteria essay, I added Might be helpful if those two essays are merged, or moved into WP Years home page? JoeNMLC (talk) 16:11, 24 June 2022 (UTC)